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FRONTIER NEWS
SPRING APRIL 2024 #95
A newsletter for the employees, families and friends of the Old Frontier Airlines
FL@SHIPROCK
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The spectacular painting on the cover is by flight atten-
dant Patty Giordano Benton. I was so impressed by her
painting GOODBYE, FRONTIER that I used it on the
cover of the Spring 2022 issue. Afterwards I asked her to
do something based on the iconic photo of a Frontier
Airlines 737 passing Shiprock Mountain in New Mexico.
It was photographed by Clay Lacy from his LearJet as
Boyd Stevens and Neil Benton flew past.
Check out the great new Frontier t-shirts developed by
DEN crew scheduler Spence Rice on page 9. He helped
get the Frontier plaque placed at Stapleton in the late
1980s which was later moved to DIA. The plaque’s pic is
on the back of the t-shirt. I bought some and the quality is
very good. He’s selling them at cost.
We lost our website for about a month. See story on
page 15. Quite an ordeal - nearly 27 years work lost.
At some point, probably sooner than later, I’m gonna get
last call for that flight west that we all eventually take. If
there is someone out there younger than me (81) who
would like to take over some, or all, of the things Frontier
that I do, please contact me. Otherwise, I see a contrac-
tion coming of the things I can do. Think about it.
The FRONTIER NEWS is digitally published quarterly
and dedicated to ex-employees, friends, family and fans of
the “old” Frontier Airlines which died” on August 24,
1986 and was “buried” on May 31, 1990.
It is a non-profit operation. All income goes into keep-
ing the NEWS going. Opinions expressed in this newslet-
ter are those of the author and not the editor or the
publication. Publishing dates are October for Fall, January
for Winter, April for Spring and July for Summer.
Articles and photos are welcomed and subject to editing
and space requirements. We cannot pay for such items
but will give credit as appropriate. All submissions
should deal with the “old” Frontier Airlines.
Especially welcomed are stories of personal experiences
with a humorous slant. All airline employees have a
treasure trove of such stories. Please share them with the
rest of the FLamily.
We also want to publicize ALL old” Frontier gather-
ings. Be sure to notify us with details: place, date, contact
and so forth. They will be published in the “Timetable”.
The Frontier News newsletter will no longer be printed
and mailed. Hard copies are not available but you may
print your own from the digital post.
The digital editions are posted at our website:
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/FL_News.html
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A digital newsletter for the ex-employees, families and friends of the “old” Frontier Airlines: 1946 - 1986
MASTHEAD
JAKE LAMKINS
Editor - Publisher
1202 Scrimshaw Cove #4
Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
479-879-8358
http://OldFrontierAirlines.com
TABLE OF CONTENTS
FL @ Shiprock..............................................
Letter From The Editor................................
Reunions.......................................................
FLights West.................................................
Plaque T-shirts...............................................
Notes From FLolks........................................
Missing Website............................................
ALPA & ALEA.............................................
AFA Strike....................................................
Chronology 1983-1985..................................
Double Awards..............................................
January 1980.................................................
DEN Reunion................................................
Bojang Whyhigh............................................
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REUNION NEWS
REUNIONS TIMETABLE
This is the information we currently have.
Coordinators of Frontier events;
please let us know the details.
More info at http://OldFrontierAirlines.com
DEN MAINTENANCE BREAKFAST
Breakfast, monthly, first Wednesday, 9:00 a.m.
at Ted'z Place, 5271 E 52nd Ave, Commerce City,
CO 80022
Contact:
Bob Keefer, 303-229-6904
DEN FLIGHT CREWS
Luncheon, monthly, every second Tuesday, 11:30 am
at HIRO Japanese Buffet
2797 S Parker Rd
Aurora, Co 80014
Contact:
Bonnie Dahl, 303-521-5611, BC-
DEN REUNION PICNIC
Sat, Aug 24, 2024
DoubleTree Hotel at I-225 and Iliff Ave.
Contact:
Carolyn Boller, 303-364-3624 [email protected]
Julie Dickman, 303-288-2127 [email protected]
Barbara Monday, 303-344-8745
bandbmonday@comcast.net
Anna Metzsch: 303-733-9968,
FYV-FSM ANNUAL REUNION
Tue, Aug 27, 2024
1:00 p.m. at Village Inn Restaurant
3364 N. College Ave., Fayetteville, AR
Contacts:
Jake Lamkins, 479-879-8358, ExFAL@Yahoo.com
Paul Farris, 479-409-9997, paulamos43@yahoo.com
MCI REUNION GATHERING
Need info for 2024
Contact:
Rose Dragen, 816-741-1995,
rmdragen@gmail.com
YOU ARE INVITED TO THE
56th ANNUAL
FYV FSM FRONTIER REUNION
Tuesday, August 27, 2024
1:00 p.m. - 2:30 p.m.
Meet For Lunch
at the Village Inn Restaurant
3364 N. College Ave., Fayetteville, AR
Due to declining attendance, we will have a smaller
reunion this year. We will meet for lunch and renew
our friendships. We have been getting together since
1968 to re-new friendships and talk about what it was
like to work for a great little airline.
All Frontier employees, families & friends are invited.
No donations but plan to pay for your meal. Let us
know you're coming so we can pre-plan the seating at
the restaurant. Hope to see you there.
For info, RSVP and/or directions:
Paul Farris, 479-409-9997, [email protected]
Jake Lamkins, 479-879-8358, [email protected]
MORE INFO
ON
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LBF has a new terminal and this is part of the baggage
claim area. It’s nice to be remembered.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/north-platte-regional-airport-north-platte
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FLOWN WEST
GONE WEST
We salute our FLriends on their FLight West.
They are not dead until we forget them.
All our memorial webpages are at
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Obituaries.html
Others are
AGENTS, CLERKS, SKYCAPS
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/ObitsAgents.html
FLIGHT ATTENDANTS
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/ObitsFAs.html
MAINTENANCE
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/ObitsMx.html
MANAGEMENT & OTHERS
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/ObitsMgmt.html
PILOTS, DISPATCHERS, FLIGHT OPERATIONS
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/ObitsPilots.html
16 DEATHS REPORTED SINCE
THE WINTER 2024 ISSUE
Enos Archuleta,
ALS PSC EUG station agent, station manager, 12/3/19,
age 83
Ed Cambra,
DEN TUS aircraft mechanic, 1/7/24, age 94
Marshall Dake,
TBN SGF station agent, 2/9/24, age 88
Bill Guthrie,
FTW, ACF, GSW, DEN, OMA, FSM, MKC, MCI,
MEM, SLC lead aircraft mechanic, 12/20/23, age 90
Tom Harris,
DEN station agent, 12/14/23, age 83
Ken Houchens,
FMN GUP GRI LNK station agent, station manager,
senior station agent, 2/17/24, age 94
John Osterberg,
DEN director-treasury, 12/21/2023, age 88
Marlys Hubble Payne,
SLC DEN flight attendant, 2/12/24, age 75
Jackie Riddle Power,
STL MCI DEN MKE ORD reservations agent,
reservations supervisor, assistant manager-customer ser-
vice, 1/16/24, age 75
Howard Schatz,
SLC SCK GUP SNA DEN, manager-flight service, sta-
tion manager, manager-agency and interline affairs,
12/12/23, age 78, heart attack
Ted Schrage,
DEN stock clerk, 2/1/24, age 95
Jerry Schultz,
OLU GRI DEN OMA station agent, 3/12/2024,
age 85
Gary Smith,
PUB DEN COS station agent, 2/18/24, age 70,
multiple myeloma
Bernie Schott Toler,
DEN flight attendant, 2/12/24, age 83
Rosemary Watson,
GSW DAL reservations agent, ticket counter agent,
1/30/18, age 76
Carol Wolfe,
DAL DFW DEN flight attendant, 12/9/23, age 79,
Alzheimer's disease
FLOWN WEST
The term 'gone west' goes back a long time, some references
say centuries, as is associated with the sun setting in the west.
As the airlines expanded their air mail routes in the post-
WWI years, they lost a lot of pilots and airplanes crossing the
Allegheny Mountains.
'Gone west' was modified to 'flown west' to denote the
aviation connection.
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MORE FLOWN WEST
ENOS ARCHULETA
1959 - 1986
STATION AGENT, STATION MANAGER
ALS PSC EUG
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Enos_Archuleta.html
ED CAMBRA
1968 - 1986
AIRCRAFT MECHANIC
DEN TUS
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Ed_Cambra.html
MARSHALL DAKE
1964 - 1986
STATION AGENT
TBN JAC SGF
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Marshall_Dake.html
BILL GUTHRIE
1957 - 1986
AIRCRAFT MECHANIC
GSW DEN OMA FSM MKC MCI SLC
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Bill_Guthrie.html
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MORE FLOWN WEST
TOM HARRIS
1967 - 1986
STATION AGENT
DEN
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Tom_Harris.html
KEN HOUCHENS
1950 - 1986
SENIOR STATION AGENT
FMN GUP GRI LNK
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Ken_Houchens.html
JOHN OSTERBERG
1970 - 1986
DIRECTOR - TREASURY
DEN
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/John_Osterberg.html
MARLYS HUBBLE PAYNE
1973 - 1986
FLIGHT ATTENDANT
SLC DEN
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Marlys_Hubble_Payne.html
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MORE FLOWN WEST
JACKIE RIDDLE POWER
1968 - 1986
ASST MANAGER-CUSTOMER SERVICE
STL MCI DEN MKE ORD
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Jackie_Riddle_Power.html
HOWARD SCHATZ
1974 - 1986
MANAGER-AGENCY AND INTERLINE
SLC GUP SCK SNA DEN
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Howard_Schatz.html
TED SCHRAGE
1967 - 1985
STOCK CLERK
DEN
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Ted_Schrage.html
JERRY SCHULTZ
1966 - 1986
STATION AGENT
OLU GRI DEN OMA
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Jerry_Schultz.html
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MORE FLOWN WEST
GARY SMITH
1973 - 1986
STATION AGENT
PUB DEN COS
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Gary_Smith.html
BERNIE SCHOTT TOLER
1961 - 1963
FLIGHT ATTENDANT
DEN
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Bernie_Schott_Toler.html
ROSEMARY WATSON
1961 - 1980
RES AGENT, TKT COUNTER AGENT
GSW DAL
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Rosemary_Watson.html
CAROL WOLFE
1970 - 1986
FLIGHT ATTENDANT
DAL DFW DEN
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Carol_Wolfe.html
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Plaque & T-Shirts
DEN crew scheduler Spence Rice has made these great looking t-shirts featuring the Frontier Plaque on the back.
Spence was instrumental in getting this plaque made back in the late 1980s and posted at Stapleton Airport. It is now on
a wall at the new DEN airport. Shirts come in black and white and cost $20 each (His cost) for S, M, L, XL plus shipping
& handling. Slightly more for larger sizes. Contact him at [email protected] or 1-687-548-8913
I was Flying into DIA a few days ago with my old Frontier T shirt on, I miss the old Frontier! The plaque is near where
you exit the secure area towards baggage claim down a little aisleway, its hard to see and I think they could have come
up with something much nicer and in a better location! The old Frontier was what made Denver aviation great!
-Scott Kendell, son of pilot Al Kendell (http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Al_Kendell.html)
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Mike Daciek, DEN pilot
Hi Jake, On Tuesday, 7 November, from 11AM until 12
Noon an FAA official will present the award to me
witnessed by my family, friends and all Morning Star
residents.
I chose three Frontiers pilots, Billy Walker, Denny
Irvine and Dale Buss to vouch for me which, in my
opinion, were highly instrumental in my winning the
award. Billy and Denny have the award and Dale is a high
official within the FAA.
Simply stated Pilots must have over 50 years of service,
have no accidents, violations or Airman Certificates re-
voked.
Jake Lamkins, DEN senior station agent
Congratulations, Mike! That's quite an achievement. Get
some pix to send me and I'll write it up for the FL News.
If you can, find out the names of the Frontier pilots who
have won this award and I'll include that in the article.
Later Mike phoned and we chatted several minutes. He
commented on how friendly folks were in FYV. He had
called me earlier and got a wrong number elsewhere in
FYV. He talked to him for 15 minutes and said he was a
real nice guy. Mike was 90 years old last Aug 6th. He
spoke of writing a novel called CHANGE OF HEART. It
is for sale at Amazon.com. His Facebook page is at
https://www.facebook.com/mike.daciek
Posted at FLacebook & Pilots E-List on 11/2/23:
DEN pilot Mike Daciek, who turned 90 last August, is
set to get the Wright Master Pilot Award at 11 a.m. on
Nov 7, 2023. You can congratulate Mike at 720-207-1351
or 303-351-8716.
Dale Buss, DEN pilot
SIR JAKE....THANKS FOR PUBLISHING THE CON-
GRADULATORY NOTE RE: CAPTAIN MIKE DA-
CIEK...CERTAINLY A WONDERFUL, MEANING-
FUL, ACCOMPLISHMENT TO ALL HE HAS
DONE...GOD'S BLESSINGS BROTHER FAITH HOPE
LOVE....CAPTAIN DALE BUSS (somewhat retired in
central Florida)...!! AND DO APPRECIATE ALL
YOUR EFFORTS..!!!!
Mike Daciek, DEN pilot
Dale,, I don't know why my last name, Daciek and LLC
is underlined. It is correct, otherwise, the letter is perfectly
acceptable and beautifully written.
Dale Buss
RE: FAA Wright Brothers 50 Year Master Pilot Award:
Captain Michael R. Daciek nominee
I have flown with, prepared advanced Studies with
Captain Michael Daciek for some five decades.
Initially we were hired in the late 1960s with Frontier
Airlines and began the phase of commercial aviation
transport.
I highly recommend Captain Michael R. Daciek for the
prestigious Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award. I have
professionally and personally known him to be a dedi-
cated, committed Airline Transport Pilot. At Frontier
Airlines, Continental Airlines, and United Airlines, do-
mestic and International, Mike was very well respected
and admired.
My relationship with the Nominee is as a professional
colleague and personal friend. His continued authorship
of Air Safety based publications from his USAF days to
the Airline Transport, Mike has been and continues to be
very well received and respected.
I am honored to humbly submit this support for The
Wright Brothers 50 year Master Pilot Award for Captain
Michael R. Daciek with his lifetime efforts, and contribu-
tions to Aviation.
Lou Clark, DEN station.ticket counter agent
That's Awesome! Congrats!!!! I got my Wright Brothers
Master Pilot Award this past January! What an Honor!!!!!
Jake Lamkins, DEN senior station agent
WOW! Lou, you may be the only station agent/ticket
counter agent to get it. Your flying career really took off
after Frontier.
NOTES FROM FLolks
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NOTES FROM FLolks
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NOTES FROM FLolks
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Vicky Veldboon, DEN flight attendant
I have this letter accompanied by a cover letter dated
September 1, 1976 from Corky Herrick.
Tony Vann, son of Larry Vann, DEN director-materiel
This is great history. Awesome to see. Also, it dawned
on me as a person who has basically always had a com-
puter in the workplace, think about how much time and
effort it took to type this in a double-column format.
Janice Gassett, DEN flight attendant
And we all managed to live like movie stars on that pay!
We always had fun.
Karen Berry, DEN flight attendant
Yes we did!
Jean Ladensack, DEN flight attendant
This looks so familiar! Was it from the mid -seventies,
by chance? Thanks for sharing!
Bob Nalevanko, DEN flight attendant
Proud to have been a Frontier Flight Attendant!!!
Karen Berry, DEN flight attendant
Me too!
Lesley Mercill, DEN flight attendant
As am I.
Bonnie Dahl, DEN flight attendant
Me too!
Christina Bonatti, DEN flight attendant
Me too!
Ranell Dee Dodge, DEN flight attendant
I knew it was the same for me, I was hired 11/23/76 and
that was my pay rate.
Kathy Marsh-Zumbehl, DEN flight attendant
I was a Reservationist hired 12-1-1980– I think we
started at $1200. Monthly. ( in Overland Park, KS)
Mary Pat Simpson, DEN flight attendant
Sounds a little more than I made in 1959....in fact, that's
quite a bit more...I was earning something like $315 per
month with $ 15 per month expenses...many, many moons
ago...
Roberta Madeira, DEN flight attendant
When I started in 1979 I think my base pay was around
$700 a month
Astrid Gyger, DEN flight attendant
I think I remember that too Roberta. How many of our
classmates do you think are still around?
Roberta Madeira, DEN flight attendant
I know none of our classmates are flying anymore. I
think Maryann Stone was the last one. I keep in contact
with Lin Wyncoop and Debbie Ruiz
Joanne Griffin, DEN flight attendant
Started in 1966 as a "stewardess" before they allowed
guys and then we became Flight Attendants. Don't remem-
ber our starting pay but it wasn't much!!
Martie Palser, DEN flight attendant
Oh the memories!
Linda Hatzky Hartzell, DEN flight attendant
Loved this job!
John Heimburger, DEN pilot
Met my wife (Chris Montano, above) of 42 years at
North Platte, Nebraska on an overnight there. She was a
marathoner, charming, and beautiful! Thank the Lord for
Convair 580s!
Jake Lamkins, DEN senior station agent
John, You never had a chance!
John Heimburger, DEN pilot
You got that right, Sir Jake! Your published article on
the two of us has been spread all over the U.S….Germany
too! Thanks again and again! (Spring 2021 FL News)
Connie Larsen, DEN flight attendant
I remember my take home pay was $411 per month after
taxes.
Sheri Welling Sense, daughter of DEN pilot
Wow…this was fun reading. (I especially got a kick out
of the clear complexion & straight teeth!) My dad (Dale
NOTES FROM FLolks
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Welling) was a 20+ year Frontier captain in 1976 I
wonder what the captain’s pay was then.
Marie Rust, DEN flight attendant
I started in ‘68 and I believe it was $335. We went
through a lot Union changes, FAA, OSHA, and cost of
living adjustments. From cold fried chicken boxes for
meals to get your own.
Lanette Duncan, DEN flight attendant
I also started in 68. And yes, we made 335 a month. I
remember hoping that the passengers wouldn’t eat all of
their little sandwiches on the Convair 580 because I
couldn’t afford to buy food on a trip.
Marie Rust, DEN flight attendant
I always brought my own food. My suitcase weighed a
ton.
Christina Bonatti, DEN flight attendant
Mine was around $469 a month. Thank you for sharing
this!
Gloria Croisant, DEN flight attendant
My first pay check came, but unfortunately it was for a
pilot with my same last name. I was so happy to see the
amount. It was quickly settled ,and I think I make around
275.00 a month.
Ranell Dee Dodge, DEN flight attendant
I can’t seem to remember what I did yesterday, but Ill
never forget Frontier! Thanks everyone for your friend-
ship and great memories! I graduated November 23, 1976.
Leah McMaken, DEN flight attendant
I loved reading this. Brought back tons of memories.
Astrid Gyger, DEN flight attendant
I'm proud to have started at Frontier Airlines.
Cherylann Morgan, DEN flight attendant
This looks like what I read in early 77. I don't think our
base pay was that high. Happiest time of my life. Such
great people to work with, so much fun.
Donna Harrison, DEN flight attendant
Wow! I have copies of that general letter somewhere in
an all things Frontier folder. Those were the days, my
friends...We thought they'd never end.
I started in April 1970, but I sure don't remember the
pay. It wasn't much but by golly we had fun!!
Hector Barrera, DEN flight attendant
Such a deal! I still don’t know how we managed to live
in Denver on a Flight Attendant’s salary. But I would not
have traded it for anything.
Lindsey Moore, DEN flight attendant
Wow, I also have the same FA info form from when I
started in '79 based in MCI and DEN. Started in DEN on
the ramp, then SLC on the counter before moving to
Inflight. Great times, eventually moved to AA, now re-
tired.
Joy Trudeau, DEN flight attendant
I started in '65 at a wage of $275 a month, which was
less than I made when I changed careers. However, within
a month or so I was making more than my previous
employment. Things have really changed thru the years
but I wouldn't have it any other way.
Lanette Duncan, DEN flight attendant
So funny to read all that. But we were all thrilled to be
there and loved our jobs. And obviously things got much
better as time went on. Still wouldn’t trade it for anything.
Karen Berry, DEN flight attendant
Me either!
Ann Hinde Patterson, DEN flight attendant
Great memories!
Rosie Wirth VanEpps, DEN flight attendant
My first block of time..short overnights in RAP. I feel so
fortunate to have gotten the experience to know the sights
and sounds of the whole production. Man, that was a good
time, the best 20 years of my life. I still have dreams of
working full flights. Mainly struggling with carry-ons and
getting lost trying to find my way to gate for flight.
Haven’t thought of some people for years and then
suddenly I will have a dream with them in it. Trying to
write down notes before I drift back to sleep…would
make a funny read. I really love all of you for making
Frontier happen. You are the wind beneath my wings and
you will never be forgotten. I love you all, Rosie
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Ernie Lingren, DEN pilot
Re http://OldFrontierAirlines.com, Well Jake, to you
and Billy Walker, I feel like I have hit the mother-lode of
treasured Frontier history. What a neat and wonderful
collection of a "little airline that truly could and did,"
become great. I had seen some of this material but, until
now, I see that I certainly did not have all of it.
There won't be much sleep here tonight as I stroll
through this bonanza of old friends, aircraft and details.
This material is soon to become ancient aeronautical
history to those that come after us. However, to those of
us that had the opportunity to play small parts in it, those
were indeed. days never to be forgotten.
Once again, my hat is off to you and to those that
assisted through the years in the preservation of this
timeless material.
We owe you our deepest gratitude.
Billy Walker, DEN pilot
Ern, putting me on the same scale with Jake is an
undeserved honor. In truth, no one can measure up to all
Jake has done to preserve & promote the people of the
original Frontier Airlines and it’s rich and abiding history.
No one can come close to the bar set by “Captain” Jake
Lamkins! NO ONE!
Jake Lamkins, DEN senior station agent
Thank you both for your kind words. My day is now off
to a GREAT start. Best wishes for the Holidays and 2024.
NOTES FROM FLolks
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I discovered our OldFrontierAirlines.com website miss-
ing at 7 a.m. on Jan 12, 2024. When I clicked on it, I got
a webpage that said “WEBSITE NO LONGER EXISTS,
The Page You’ve Requested Is From A Site That Has
Been Permanently Removed.”
That nearly ruined my Valentine’s Day. I immediately
sent a message to Lycos/Tripod, the host for our website,
telling them of the problem and asking for assistance.
They promptly replied they had my message and it would
be processed within 48 hours. When I tried to sign into my
Tripod account, it said the website had been shut down for
abuse.
Then I heard nothing from Lycos/Tripod for days and
days even though I queried them daily. They no longer
have telephone assistance so I had to message them.
-Jake Lamkins
Thank you for contacting the Lycos Support Team.
There was a copyright complaint against your site, http://
oldfrontierairlines.com
Ticket:https://helpdesk.lycos.com/helpdesk/tickets/
828732
-Lycos Support
I received this 1/30/24, 18 days after my initial query. I
answered right back: Thank you for answering my ticket.
I had no idea that my domain name could be a problem.
Can I cancel the domain name and remove the weblink of
fal-1.tripod.com to oldfrontierairlines.com to resolve the
problem and get fal-1.tripod.com back online. If not, what
can I do to resolve the problem? Thank you for your help,
-Jake Lamkins
Thank you for contacting the Lycos Support Team. It is
more than the URL. "We are the authorized representa-
tives of our client Frontier Airlines. Our Client, Frontier
Airlines has identified the following domain as being fake
and infringing on their rights. We believe you are the
host/registrar for domain.http://oldfrontierairlines.com
The above-mentioned URL is using trademarked naming
conventions/logos/images that infringe on Frontier Air-
lines. This fake domain is claiming to be associated/
authorized/partnered with our client which is creating a
risk for the entity’s people, assets, customers, operations,
and reputation.
The above-mentioned domain is unauthorizedly using
our client's trademarked name and logo which is not
authorized by our client. This has created numerous risks
including loss of revenue and traffic and, most notably,
repetitional issues and loss of consumer trust.
Please investigate, consider it a high-priority request, and
remove this site at the earliest."
-Lycos Support
THE NEW FRONTIER AIRLINES SHUT US DOWN!
Lycos/Tripod never contacted me before taking it down. I
had to wait nearlly three weeks to get a response from
them. I had shared this information on our FLacebook
page and it caused a lot of negative comments. Days went
by and every option I could think of had been tried. Pilots
Billy Walker and Dave Kaplan were working on contact-
ing the legal department of the new Frontier when a white
knight came to our rescue.
-Jake Lamkins
FLacebook Messenger 2/2/24: Hi Jake, I reached out to
a friend who is in legal with F9 to ask for and see if any
clarification can be provided regarding the company’s
efforts to shut the facebook page down. Following is the
text I sent her and she has indicated she will see what she
can find out.
-Steve Graham
(Steven, an F9 pilot, is the son of FL pilot George Gra-
ham (http://FAL-1.tripod.com/George_Graham.html) and
FL flight attendant Peg Felmlee Graham
(http://FAL-1.tripod.com/Peg_Felmlee_Graham.html))
I contacted Steve right away and clarified that it was the
website that had been removed and not the Facebook
page. I also answered all the questions he was getting
from F9 Legal.
To make a VERY long story short and fit this page,
thanks to Steve and Valerie the problem was fixed on
Monday, Feb 5, 2024.
-Jake Lamkins
Thank you for contacting the Lycos Support Team. I just
got those emails now and I have turned your site back on.
https://fal-1.tripod.com is active again. Ticket:https://
helpdesk.lycos.com/helpdesk/tickets/828732
-Lycos Support (2/5/24)
Valerie Tyler, F9 legal department, phoned me the same
day about the website problem. F9 had subcontracted with
a company to police the internet for copyright infringe-
ment. It’s quite a problem - they have even caught culprits
selling phony F9 tickets. She told me the third party erred
and she had told them to re-instate our FL website.
Valerie said it had been placed on a white list so it would
not be bothered in the future. She asked me to email her
the FLacebook info and she would place it on the white
list too.
So, to Steve Graham and Valerie Tyler I shout:
THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!
THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!
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-Jake Lamkins
MISSING WEBSITE
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ALPA & ALEA & AFA
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ALPA & ALEA & AFA
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ALEA CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
Its accomplishments during the past 25 years
By Dr. M. B. Wigderson, Senior Staff Vice President
(The Air Line Employee, Nov/Dec 1977, Pages 8-9-10)
We were brought into this world as the brainchild of
ALPA’s first president, Dave Behncke, who headed the
pilots for their first 20 years. He felt it imperative that
other groups of airline employees also have union repre-
sentation, so he appointed Victor J. Herbert and William
A. Schneider to head up an “Education and Organization
Department” to go out and get things under way.
The Air Line Agents Association (ALAA) got off the
ground in 1952 with representation rights and agreements
on North Central Airlines and Trans Texas. The initial
agreement on North Central was signed October 2, 1952 .
. . and among these signing were Tom Needham who is
still serving on the Company’s committee and our very
own sage of Hibbings, Minnesota, Station Manager and
25 year union member Charlie Cox. The top salary of a
station agent was $280 per month with overrides for
Seniors of $15. Vacations were two weeks maximum.
Sick leave was provided with a maximum accrual of thirty
days. Trans Texas Airways (now Texas International)
followed in November of the same year. Organizational
activity continued and we soon had representation rights
and agreements on National Airlines, Southwest Airways
(later Pacific), Frontier, Riddle (later Airlift Int’L), and
West Coast. (Pacific, West Coast and Bonanza later
merged into Air West)
Department to union In 12 years
We grew and prospered from this modest beginning, but
not without a constant struggle with some of the compa-
nies, raids from other unions, and disturbances from dissi-
dent groups who attempted to take over the union for their
own personal use and benefit. The name of the organiza-
tion was changed to Air Line Employees Association,
Int’l. in 1960 to better reflect our entire membership. In
1964 ALEA was granted a permanent, fully autonomous
charter as an affiliate of ALPA. In 12 years we had
evolved from a department to an independent union affili-
ated with the AFL-CIO through ALPA. In 1967 we built
our own Home Office in Chicago . . . and a few years later
this was expanded to house our ever increasing services to
the membership.
ALEA has from its inception been a union designed to
solely represent airline ground personnel. There are other
unions outside the ALPA family that have representation
rights in the airline industry . . . but their prime considera-
tion is in other industries where the great majority of their
memberships are employed—railroads, truck lines, sub-
ways, and bus lines, or in manufacturing. The preponder-
ance of their members are interested in their own prob-
lems in their own industry. The few airline employees in
the so called “Big Unions” must necessarily take a far
back seat with their problems . . . and you can imagine the
attention such a minority receives at a Convention!
ALEA has but one concern, the growth and development
of our membership’s interests as air line employees . . . we
concentrate on this complex and ever evolving field as our
sole endeavor. This is reflected in the development of our
agreements with the airlines.
Negotiating—a team effort
The negotiating process on ALEA represented airlines is
basically a “team” effort. The members who serve as the
basic negotiating committee are employees of a particular
airline in the various departments of that airline. They
know and are familiar with all the details and operations
concerning their phase of the activity.
These members are elected by their Master Executive
Council to serve on the negotiating committee on the basis
of their intelligence, capability to communicate with oth-
ers, and their ability to work with a team” concept. Of
course, it is most important that the MEC shoulders the
full responsihility to make their selections carefully so
they can send in their “first team” . . . not some politically
motivated or glamor type! The ALEA home office then
adds to the elected committee other teammates who are
highly skilled professional and experienced negotiators . .
. and now we have a full team that is able to cope with
company committees similarly hand picked by top man-
agement. Our most successful teams are a carefully se-
lected, skillful blend of employees with local knowledge
of how that airline operates and all the problems which
must be faced . . . and trained, experienced negotiators
who add the professional touch to the proceedings. No
one on this team can honestly take individual credit for
accomplishments. There is no such word as “I. . . it is
always “we”! The accomplishments of these committees
over the years are legend, and are always in the best
interest of bettering the life, working conditions and
wages of the membership. These efforts are coordinated
through the Home Office staff so as to make continuity
available to the greatest degree throughout all of the
agreements.
ALEA—tops in its field
ALEA has introduced many innovations which have
earned respect throughout the industry . . . to the degree of
being recognized by the Department of Labor as the
“leader” in our field. In purely economic areas, some of
these breakthroughs have been shift premiums, paid meal
periods, better vacation schedules, more holidays, better
bereavement leave, biggest advances in sick leave and
On-the-Job injury provisions, a complete overtime table
up through triple time, allowances for replacement and
cleaning of uniforms, the best senior (chief/lead) over-
rides, the best Cost-of-Living adjustments, greatest ad-
vances in insurance and pension programs . . . and we
have consistently established the standards of pay rates
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for our Class or Craft throughout the industry. North
Central since its first agreement has accomplished wage
increases of 625%, averaging of 25% per year for the
twenty-five year period!
The ALEA teams have been a good friend and provider
for every one of its members. Further, there are hidden”
benefits in fringes which add an additional 34% to the
take home pay! In other areas we have developed the
permanent and rotating panel of arbitrators in the settle-
ment of grievances. On National Airlines we innovated
the Labor Peace Plan which provides for the arbitration of
limited issues in major disputes (contract negotiations)
under the auspices of the National Mediation Board.
Our most recent innovation is the option of semi-
retirement, open to employees eligible for pension but
who, because of economic or other reasons, do not want to
stop working entirely.
Two “rocky” stretches
We have accomplished these progressive and far reach-
ing benefits for our membership with relatively few
strikes. We have had some half dozen strikes in our
history, and only two of them were lengthy. In 1970 we
had a strike on National Airlines of some four months
duration which was settled in Washington under the aus-
pices of the Secretary of Labor and his assistant, William
Usury. The company trumpeted that ALEA lost this strike
. . . but their 9% three-year proposal compared with our
33% settlement tells a much different story! In 1974-75 a
four-month strike was imposed on us by TI management
which refused to negotiate in good faith, even to the point
of taking back some of their own proposals after we had
accepted them! Then, by rejecting arbitration and imple-
menting their “rule changes,” the company forced us to
strike. In the opinion of many well informed observers, TI
created this situation in order to reap some $8 million in
Mutual Aid benefits. However, a top management officer
of TI told us the company fully intended to “bust” the
union but failed because they underestimated the ALEA
team!
Our strength lies in our professional know-how. We
resort to economic warfare only when there is no other
means to resolve a major dispute. We are always fair but
firm in our resolve to negotiate an honorable, fair, and just
agreement. After the prolonged strikes at NA and TI, both
companies have made public statements that it was a long
struggle to get the passengers back on their airlines. We
developed a “Work Perfection Program” as a less disaster-
ous (to the company) means of demonstrating our unity
and purpose in attaining good agreements. WPP calls for
implementing all company work rules which are filed
with the regulatory agencies. . . thus all work is done to
perfection of their own rules. The purpose is to bring to
the company’s attention the close relationship of morale
and productivity.
Challenges from outside, inside
We have also withstood “raids” by other unions. They
come on strong with golden promises of “pie-in-the sky,”
and how they would do better than ALEA if the employee
would just sign up with them to change unions. This is a
boldface lie that should be quickly apparent to the em-
ployee because, if the other union could accomplish all
these great things, why hadn’t they done so at the airlines
where they had representation rights in our Class or Craft?
All the members have to do is to look at their own
ALEA agreement and compare it with Ozark (IAM),
Braniff (IBT) or Northwest (BRC) to confirm that the
ALEA team has always done better! It has been theorized
that the raids may have been instigated or encouraged by
the airline in the belief that they would weaken the unity
of the employees.
There is also the factor of a small but loud minority of
dissidents who for personal aggrandizement or seeking
power they cannot gain in a democratic organization like
ALEA, lend aid and comfort to the raiding union. The
same individuals frequently attempt to discredit all of the
teams’ efforts to improve the memberships’ benefits,
wages and working conditions.
Yes, it has been a rocky road the past 25 years, but the
future of the airline employee looks bright. The Labor
Peace Plan laid the foundation for the development of a
program of “Relationship by Objectives” (RBO) which
has developed better communications between manage-
ment and our membership at all levels.
ALEA HISTORY
Mort Wigderson signing the 1981 FL/ALEA contract.
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FLacebook posts re FL/AFA Negotiations 1984 with
telegram about the strike.
Barb Womack
The almost strike! I remember the crew on my flight
home to Kansas City helping me smuggle strike signs and
sit in the back of “fat Albert.”
Jake Lamkins
That was a tough time! We had just finished up our
ALEA contract negotiations a month or so before and
settled for reductions. I was ending my four years as
ALEA Master Chairman and it was a BITTER pill for me.
Christina Bonatti
I was working in negotiations with AFA then. Tuff time.
Jake Lamkins
The PATCO Strike happened in Aug 1981 and had a
definite chilling effect on labor negotiations in the U.S. for
decades afterwards.
One of President Reagan's political aides then was Lyn
Nofziger who took a very hard line with the PATCO union
negotiators.
The O’Neil Brothers put Nofziger on the Frontier Board
of Directors in late 1982 or early 1983.
Our CAB mediator in 1983/84 often mentioned pressure
from the Reagan Administration to “get us settled.”
Then I met Nofziger, the pompous ass, at the Ramada Inn
in Denver in early 1984 when he was introduced by the
CAB mediator. It still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
When the flight attendants came close to going on strike, the company sent this out with instructions on how to scab.
A BITTER YEAR
May 31, 1984
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SOME FRONTIER CHRONOLOGY
1983 Jan. Profit of $17M for 1982 announced.
1983 3/21 DEN 737 emergency landing with blown main gear tire
1983 3/23 CPR landing of 737 with gears retracted - pilot error
1983 5/1 Company loses $10M in first quarter
1983 8/9 Frontier Holdings announces plans for non-union airline, Frontier Horizon
1983 Sep. CO files bankruptcy first time
1983 9/7 SUX-CID and DSM-CID links added
1983 Sep. Frontier unions pickets Frontier HQs over Frontier Horizon start-up
1983 10/17 Combs Airways leases 9 FL CV580s to start FL Commuter
1983 11/18 DEN-MAF-ABI flight begin
1983 12/1 FL Commuter starts up using FL CV580s from DEN to CYS LAR RIW RKS RIW
1983 12/12 Start of non-stop PSP-DEN service
1984 1/9 Frontier Horizon inaugurates service - DEN-IAD DEN-SFO & DEN-ORD with 727s
1984 1/23 MD80 at SNA loses engine on takeoff and returns for emergency landing
1984 Feb. Frontier pilots agree to an 11.6 percent wage cuts.
1984 3/1 FH begins DEN-LGA service
1984 3/29 General Tire forms a holding company called GenCorp, RKO General is a subsidiary
1984 Apr. The company reports a $10.95 million first quarter loss
1984 5/1 Chick Stevens downgraded at FRONTIER magazine, by Jan 86 shown as "founder" tho still getting articles in
occasionally
1984 May. ALEA members approve a new union contract that calls for an 11 percent wage cut
1984 6/8 DEN-RFD, MSN-RFD and CID-RFD service started
1984 6/16 Frontier Airlines pilot Emily Warner and co-pilot Barbara Cook make history by directing the first all-female
commercial airline crew, on a flight from Denver to Lexington, Kentucky
1984 6/27 Announced plans to cease service to 20 cities on Oct 1
1984 8/29 B737 makes emergency landing after losing engine on takeoff
1984 9/1 New customer service & ramp uniforms introduced
1984 10/1 DEN-MSP & DEN-MKE service starts
1984 10/1 Service dropped to FSM LIT FAT DRO ATL IND SUX FOE LEX DTW JLN HLN GRI GFK FMN CMH
TOL MEM ABI PSC
1984 Oct. Frontier employees begin studying the possibility of purchasing the carrier through an employee stock owner
ship plan
1984 Nov. A Los Angeles investor offers to buy the airline for $222 million
1984 11/5 Glen Ryland resigns and Hank Lund becomes FL’s 8th president
1984 Dec. A coalition of Frontier employees offers $220.4 million to buy the airline
1984 12/15 FL Services start bus shuttle service to Keystone, Vail, Copper Mountain, Breckinridge & Winter Park, to run
til 4/7/85
1985 1/1 FH goes DEN-TPA & MCO
1985 1/15 FL Commuter ceases operations after opposition from the Employee Coalition
1985 3/2 Frontier reports $31.1M loss for 1984
1985 4/1 FL Horizon ceases operations after opposition from the Employee Coalition - consolidated back into FL
1985 4/1 FL DEN-IAD service started, replacing dropped FH service
1985 Apr. The airline lays off 200 more employees. Texas Air Corp. makes a $185 million bid for Frontier. The bid is re
jected.
1985 4/25 Hank Lund resigns and Joe O’Gorman becomes FL’s 9th president
1985 May. Frontier turns down a $230 million takeover bid from Texas Air
1985 Jul. Frontier’s board approves the employee buyout plan
1985 8/20 FL sold last nine CV580s to Metro Airlines
1985 Sep. Texas Air bids $250 million for Frontier.
1985 10/5 People Express announces that it will buy Frontier for about $300 million
1985 10/8 Frontier Holdings approves sale to People Express at $24 per share - $298M
THAT GOT WORSE
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Dorothy Seamster Johnson is the only known winner of two Frontier Presidential Awards and she won them for two
actions in 1976, four months apart. She had a flight attendant seniority date of 3/17/73 per the Feb 1981 flight attendant
seniority list. She is not on the Feb 1986 seniority list. So she left the company sometime between Feb 1981 and Feb
1986. I have been unable to find any more information on her.
Jeff Hutchinson, the LAW station agent, whose life was saved by Dorothy and Valerie (See next page) went on to win
a Presidential Award himself for his actions on March 30, 1981 after the crash of a U.S. Army U-21 aircraft at the Law-
ton airport. According to Glen Ryland, “Hutchinson entered the burning aircraft and saved the lives of two officers who
were trapped inside. With total disregard for his own safety and under extremely dangerous conditions, Hutchinson’s
unselfish and automatic response was to aid the two officers. He immediately notified fire and rescue units, and extin-
guished the flames outside the cabin and inside the cockpit. This is heroism at its finest.
Hutchinson was also recently awarded the Federal Aviation Administration’s Distinguished Service Award for his ac-
tions - the FAA’s second highest award. A veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps, Hutchinson first joined Central Airlines in
1961, later joining Frontier after serving in Viet Nam. Hutchinson is married and has five children.
DOUBLE AWARDS
FRONTIER NEWS OCT/NOV 1976
PRESIDENTIAL AWARD RECIPIENTS
Kathleen McCormick (second from left), Dorothy Seamster (second from right) and Carol Wolfe (right), all DFW and
Denver- based flight attendants, are pleased to be honored by President Al Feldman and Manager-Flight Service (DFW)
Erma Spell (left) for saving a child’s life on board a flight between Fort Smith and Memphis on Aug. 22.
Cited for truly a commendable feat,” these women extracted food from four-year-old Richard Chacos’s throat during
an epileptic seizure. “We appreciate your clear thinking when it really counted,” commented Feldman. Kathleen,
Dorothy and Carol share 14 years of flying experience with Frontier.
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FRONTIER NEWS MAR/APR 1977
QUICK RESPONSE in a critical situation earned Dallas/Ft. Worth-based Flight Attendants Dorothy (Seamster)
Johnson (left) and Valerie Hague a Presidential Award and the congratulations of Al Feldman in February. Dorothy and
Valerie were working different flights on the ground in Lawton on Dec. 17 when Senior Agent Jeff Hutchinson suffered
a seizure on the ramp. Sizing up the situation, they immediately deplaned to administer oxygen and other first aid
techniques until the ambulance arrived.
Lawton Sales/Service Manager Larry Baumgartner and Capt Sam Scott (piloting Dorothy’s flight) commended the
flight attendantsfast thinking in the incident. Added Mr. Feldman, “You both can be credited with saving this agent’s
life through your competent reaction and knowledge of emergency procedures.”
This is the second Presidential Award for Dorothy, who shares 20 years of flying experience with Valerie.
DOUBLE AWARDS
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NEW FRONTIER PRESIDENT
When A. L. Feldman, Frontier president and chief exec-
utive officer, assumes the duties of president and chief
executive officer of Continental Airlines in February,
1980, Glen L. Ryland, vice president and chief operating
officer, will succeed him as president and chief executive
officer of Frontier.
The two have been working together as a team for nine
years at Frontier. Prior to Frontier Feldman was president
of Aerojet Nuclear Systems Co. of Sacramento, California
while Ryland was his chief financial officer.
When the two leaders arrived at Frontier, the airline was
losing money, including a net loss of $3.5 million during
1970. By 1972 the Feldman-Ryland team had wiped out a
carryover deficit of $2 million plus and went from four
previous years of financial loss to become and stay among
the top four airlines (trunks and regional) in profit margin
and return on investment.
Since that time the Airline’s financial figures have been
in the black and under the management team the com-
pany’s growth has outpaced most other carriers in the
1970s.
In 1978, Frontier made a record net income of $18.6
million and in the first nine months of 1979 they have
shown a net Income of $15.7. All together Frontier has
earned net profits of $86.8 million from 1972 through the
first nine months of 1979 and this year’s annual figures
will be their best yet, reported Frontier.
Ryland reportedly does not plan to alter the discipline
that has turned Frontier into the winner it is today.
Ryland’s plan for Frontier remains stable growth into
the medium-sized cities.
Frontier’s lines of service were extended to 10 new
cities during 1979 including such cities as Detroit, Mich.,
Jackson, Miss., Shreveport, La., Boise, Idaho.
At year-end, Frontier’s domestic routes linked 86 air-
ports in 26 states, plus three terminals in Mexico and two
in Canada.
“But we are still a regional airline.” Ryland told the
Denver Post. “Our entire system was built with Denver as
the hub and with our non-stop and multi-stop routes
fanning out to and from Denver to other cities for which
Denver is a natural destination, or a logical transfer point
for flights in any direction.”
Frontiers reported emphasis on orderly, profitable
growth will continue in 1980, despite escalating fuel costs
and the current softening of traffic due to the recession.
Ryland noted that the spokes from Denver will become
more numerous in the months ahead.
This coming summer, when the economic slump is
expected to have bottomed out and when Frontier’s traffic
historically takes an upswing, the airline plans to extend
its routes to Canada’s fast-growing energy centers of
Regina and Saskatoon.
Other route improvements in 1980 will include a service
extension to Lexington, Kentucky, and nonstop flights
between Denver and Atlanta, to be scheduled in addition
to Frontier’s present Denver-Wichita-Atlanta flights.
Ryland also will continue to rely on the Boeing 737
aircraft, which seats 106 under Frontier’s configuration.
“The 737 is a cost effective airplane and can compete in
these select markets.”
Frontier will put seven more Boeing 737’s into service
in 1980, including the return of three jets now leased to
another airline to trim capacity during the economic
slump. At the end of the year, Frontier will have 43
Boeing 737’s in service, and two more jets have already
been ordered for delivery in the spring of 1981.
Ryland told the Rocky Mountain News that in 1980 he
wants to drop 10 small cities and by 1983 he wants to end
Frontier’s eligibility for government subsidies.
Ryland wants to take passengers from their medium-
sized city routes and funnel them into Denver. Then the
passengers can either disembark or continue on to another
Frontier route, like Detroit.
Even if passengers leave a Frontier plane at Denver and
board another jet for New York City, Frontier still has the
revenue on the first leg of the journey.
Feldman and now Ryland have identified Frontier’s
market and want to make people in these markets Frontier
customers.
Another one of Ryland’s top priorities in the immediate
future is to work with city and state officials to alleviate
the congestion at Denver’s Stapleton airport.
Ryland told the Denver Post that Denver’s airport “is on
the brink of becoming one of the worst in America with
impossible traffic conditions both on the ground and in
the air.”
“Stapleton is becoming as bad an airport as O’Hare
International in Chicago,” added Ryland.
“We’re already at 1990 levels at Stapleton,” he pointed
out to the Rocky Mountain News.
Since Frontier has 63 percent of its total operations in
Denver, Ryland feels the carrier’s growth potential is
currently constrained by the situation at Stapleton.
“With our cost-effective route system and fleet we can
make great strides, but congestion at Stapleton, the hub of
our system is a constraint” said Ryland.
Something must ‘be done quickly or the Denver area’s
steady growth will be threatened by lack of facilities,’
added Ryland.
Ryland is urging city and state officials to consider
runway construction at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal,
north of the present airport, and to immediately start work
on the first phase of the proposed Concourse A with
simultaneous expansion of the north end of the terminal to
the west.
“It is not in the best interest of Denver area and Col-
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orado citizens or travelers using the airport to build a new
$2 billion airport, a Taj Mahal of the future far out on the
plain. It is better to concentrate on more immediate and
lasting alternatives.
“Denver is alone among America’s big cities with the
blessing of an airport only minutes from the downtown
area, and surrounded by airlines and a web of interstate
highways. And there is no other big city with enough open
land just north of its terminal for expansion into what
would be the largest airport in the world.
“Additional offstreet parking and terminal gates could
be built at the present airport,” Ryland told the Denver
Post. “Then with the arsenal land secured by Denver from
the U.S. Army, the problem of too-close-together main
runways at Stapleton could be ended by new construction
to the north. And eventually extra terminal facilities could
be built near the new runways with expressway access.
This would end our slide into near-O’Hare status and
solve our problem into the 21st century and it would cost
$2 to $3 billion” he added.
“I am looking forward to the chief executive’s job.
There will always be challenges for Frontier - inflation,
fuel prices, the deregulated environment. With our out-
standing people and our commitment to continued suc-
cess, the future will be positive for all of us,“ said Ryland,
Ryland graduated from the University of California at
Berkeley in 1949 with a B.S. degree in Business Admini-
tration. He was an Army Air Corps pilot in World War II
and was recalled in early 1951 to head European aircraft
procurement operations for the U.S. Air Force. “I have a
commercial pilot’s license, and like to fly the Twin Co-
manche to make station visits to talk to Frontier employ-
ees. I hope to do more of this in the future,” commented
Ryland.
Active in civic and industry affairs, Ryland is president
of the Denver area Council of Boy Scouts of America, and
has served as Colorado campaign chairman for the Listen
Foundation. He was chairman of the Economics and
Finance Council of the Air Transport Association in 1976
and 1977.
(Excerpted and edited from THE STAPLETON INNER-
LINE, Volume 1, Number 9, January 9, 1980, an article
titled To Be New Frontier President, Ryland: Stable
Growth To Continue by Cathey Hix)
FRONTIER ALEA NEWSLETTER
Published by the Master Executive Council for the infor-
mation of the ALEA membership on Frontier Airlines.
January/February 1980
TICKET COUNTER AND STATION AGENTS
Section 15, I, 1, page 72 and 73, of the Agreement states
that TCAs (Group D) and Station Agents (Group E) may
bid into each other’s classification without loss of group
seniority. This language has been amended by Federal
Judges. T. Hughes’ decision of September, 1974, which
resulted from a suit brought by an ALEA member.
1. Group D employees transferring to Group E shall be
permitted to do so without loss of any seniority and all
Group D seniority shall become part of Group E seniority.
2. Group E employees transferring to Group D, who
have confirmed ticket counter experience of at least six
months and such experience having been attained prior to
September 3 1974, shall be permitted to do so without loss
of any seniority and all Group E seniority shall become
port of Group D seniority.
3. Group E employees transferring to Group D who do
not have the required six months ticket counter experience
attained prior to September 3, 1974 shall not be permitted
to carry their seniority to Group D.
The effective date of Group D seniority shall be the first
day worked in such seniority group. Previously earned
Group E seniority shall be regarded as “retained senior-
ity” and exercised as appropriate.
4. Employees transferring under 1 or 2 above shall not
be regarded as holding “retained seniority” in the senior-
ity group from which transferred in that all such earned
seniority is utilized in the new seniority group.
SYSTEM BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
The FL/ALEA Four Man System Board met 9-13 July,
6-9 August, and 10-12 October of 1979. Approximately
40 cases were heard. The Three Man Board, with Arbitra-
tor John Phillip Linn, met 10-12 September, 1979. Six
cases were heard. ALEA Board members were Carolyn
BoIler, DENRK, Mark Stuhr, OMAOO, Robb Ogden,
DENAR, and Jake Lamkins, FYVOO. ALEA Headquar-
ters should soon distribute a summary of all cases heard.
Presently, about 30 cases are pending before the Four
Man Board, and one is pending before the Three Man
Board.
EXECUTIVE BOARD
The Executive Board met in Chicago 16-12 Octo-
ber,1979. A compilation of their minutes was sent to all
officers in November. Frank Monheiser’s motion that
MEC newsletters be published 3 to 6 times per year was
carried unanimously. The FL MEC Newsletter will be
bi-monthly starting with this issue. We welcome sugges-
tions, letters, ideas, etc. to help improve the newsletter
and increase communication among FL ALEA members.
A NEW ADDRESS?
Your dues are wasted when ALEA Headquarters pays
25 cents per piece for returned mail. Please tell Headquar-
ters or your local officer when you move. Your local
officer should have a supply of Change of Address forms.
JANUARY 1980
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SHORTHOPS
WA is dropping service to CYS and HLN. They may
drop more points in FL’s part of the country. The Tobacco
Workers Union boycott of all R. J. Reynolds products
continues. The cigarette boycott list includes Winston,
Camel, Salem, Doral, Vantage, and More. The Coors
boycott also continues. Floyd Rollins, ELP, has retired.
The U. S. Labor Dept. has announced that unions in-
creased their membership by 605,000 between 1976 and
1978, bringing the total to a record 21.7 million. Women
now constitute 27.4% of all organized workers.
Interested in a good labor oriented monthly magazine?
Try Mother Jones, named after one of our labor pioneers,
1886 Haymarket Square, Marion, Ohio 43302. DL led the
parade to the bank in the first half of 1979 with profits of
$136.7 million. In addition, DL in ATL, Aug 79, became
the first airline in the world to board one million passen-
gers in one city in one month. FL, in 1978, paid $8.4
Million ($1.52 per passenger) for inflight food. Inflight
sales for the same year were $1.2 Million.
FL will put $700,000 into the TRASOP program for
1979. The CAB and all subsidy will end Dec. 31, 1982.
FL plans to have 20 Convairs by the end of 1980. We have
24 presently. The Convair now requires a 70% load factor
to break even. ATLFL farmout has ended, except for air
freight. DTWFL farmout has also ended. HLN and LEX
should be all FL staff. DEN—ATL non—stop service
planned for June, 1980. FL is working on MOT—YQR
and YXE service.
NOTABLE QUOTE
“... There is a crisis brewing in America.. .Many people
blame inflation, high wages, and low productivity. Yet the
disposable income of the working people is going down;
that is, wages aren’t keeping pace with inflation. We
should also bear in mind that production figures take into
consideration salaries of white collar workers and execu-
tives as well as assembly line workers. The number of
white collar workers per unit of finished product has
increased 27% in the past 10 years while blue collar
workers have grown only 9.8%” - Dale Bumpers, U. S.
Senator from Arkansas.
BOJANG WHYHIGH
The first myth of management is that it exists.
OVERTIME RULES
Page 25, G 2, of the Agreement states, “A procedure and
record keeping system will be mutually established and
published at each location to keep a record of equalization
and to apply equalization rules.” There is no excuse for
any location not having published overtime equalization
rules. If there are no published rules, the local officer, in
consultation with the members, and the manager should
meet and mutually establish’ a set of rules for that
location. If a set of rules cannot be established, contact the
Council Chairman for assistance.
MASTER EXECUTIVE COUNCIL
The MEC had a short meeting in December when the
company talked to us. The next regular meeting will be in
Chicago around the 1st of February. Election of a Negoti-
ating Committee and Council realignment top the agenda.
Mike Macek, LNK, is the new Council 47 Chairman.
DISCIPLINE
Industrial Relations says the company will no longer use
the ‘automatic discipline’ of five days off without pay for
ground equipment accidents and ten days off without pay
for aircraft accidents. Management says discipline will
depend on the individual situation now.
BIDDING PROCEDURES
AND THE CHAIN OF COMMAND
Members should not contact Industrial Relations with
contract questions. The local ALEA officer is the appro-
priate person to contact. If he doesn’t have the answer, he
can contact the Council Chairman. Use the chain of
command. Too many members still bypass local officers
and call the MEC Chairman, the Regional Director, or
ALEA HQs. In addition, members should not contact
Industrial Relations about where vacancies exist, to see if
they are the successful bidder on a position, or with any
similar questions. Finally, a permanent bid card can be
submitted only for an existing position. Bids for TCA in
CYS or Clerk Typist in HVR are useless and a waste of
time when no such position exists. Your help and cooper-
ation will be appreciated.
NOT A TOY
Some of our members, unfortunately, have decided the
teletype is a toy for their personal pleasure. They send
asinine, irrelevant, and uncalled for messages to the entire
system by coding ALLOO on the computer. They jam the
system some days to the extent that trip messages and
other important business messages are delayed. Especially
on weekends, requests for football scores and other unau-
thorized messages clutter the printers. Just a word to those
few people playing games; every message you send, even
without printing your sending location, can be traced. You
are jeopardizing your job when you send unauthorized
messages. The company has indicated they are getting
tough with offenders. We do not want to see you at the
System Board trying to get your job back for pulling such
a dumb stunt.
FRANK MONHEISER, MEC Chairman
JAKE LAMKINS, MEC Vice Chairman
JANUARY 1980
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DEN REUNION
37th DENVER ANNUAL REUNION PICNIC
Committee
Carolyn Boller, 1293 Revere St., Aurora, CO 80011
303-905-4356 or 303-364 3624, [email protected]
Julie Dickman, 15501 E 112th Ave Apt 24A, Commerce City, CO 80022
303-717-6242, jjdickman@gmail.com
Barbara Monday: 9800 E Walsh Pl, Denver, CO 80247,
303-344-8745, bgmonday@comcast.net
Anna Metzsch: 2600 Cirque Way, Montrose CO
81401 303-733-9968, [email protected]
Mail check or cash to:
Carolyn Boller at 1293 Revere St, Aurora CO 80011.
Check should be made to FAL Picnic Fund. Do not make the check in my name.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please detach on the line and mail to:
Carolyn Boller at 1293 Revere St, Aurora CO 80011
_________I will attend the picnic on Saturday ________ (number in party)
_________Sorry, I cannot attend this year, however please keep my name on your list.
A donation is appreciated for continued mailing to cover postage & printing.
_________If the person, who is shown at this address, no longer resides at this address, please advise at
Name:
Address:
City:, State, Zip:
Phone, Email:
Saturday, August 24, 2024
Doubletree Inn at I-225 and Iliff Ave in Aurora Colorado.
It’s been 38 years and we are still a family… come join the celebration at the Frontier Airlines Reunion in Au-
rora Colorado on Saturday the 24th of August starting at 10:00 am until 3:00 pm.
The cost will be $30 per person with a brunch and cash bar.
It is extremely important that you advise if you will attend by completing the section below and mailing it by
August 14, 2024. This is needed for an accurate food count. RSVP required!!!!!!!
History Colorado will be coming to do interviews of those who want to share their story of their time with Fron-
tier. Dr. Storm is the Associate Curator of Business and Industry at History Colorado. The interviews will be
posted on their website for the world to hear.
We have reserved 10 rooms on the night of August 23rd for those who wish to come in early. The cost is $129
per night plus tax. The deadline is 11:59pm August 1. If the rooms are not sold by then—the rate returns to the
normal price and the link disappears. Here is the contact: Original Frontier Airlines rooms, 1-800-997-4058
We will have free tables for any “nostalgia” that you may wish to pass on to another FAL employee and the
usual drawing will be held.
A big THANKS to everyone who is attending the function and those who have mailed in advance donations.
We couldn’t continue if it were not for your generosity and support.
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THE KANSAS CITY
CV-580
CREW BASE
is a proud supporter of
THE FRONTIER NEWS at
http://FAL-1.tripod.com/FL_News.html
OLD FRONTIER AIRLINES WEBSITE
http://OldFrontierAirlines.com
Jake Lamkins, Webmaster,
ExFAL@Yahoo.com
and http://www.KansasCityCrewBase.com
Capt'n Phil Stallings, Webmaster,
Check the websites for FL news,
notices on upcoming events,
pictures and stories from the past.
BOJANG WHYHIGH
The speed
of the leader
sets the pace
of the pack